I right so I have a question for you regarding the upcoming presidential election so
Super Tuesday's coming up with the South Carolina primaries
coming up as well unless something happens Trump will for sure clinch the Republican nomination
in the general election though there are quite a few
tail winds that he has right the economy the situation with the
border the sort of a
conflagrations that are springing up across the whole world with the Warren Latin America the Middle
East Russia Ukraine the possibility of China Taiwan etc so those are his tail winds
and people might say well of well with those type of talens he'll definitely
make it across the finish line
however some of the headwinds are also
real rather strong first such as the general you know we hate Trump movement
in the country which is strong right
you have all the power centers against Trump but the other one that has a lot
of Grass through support is abortion
and I've noticed that Trump has sort of distanced himself away
from universal bans and abortion because on the flip side the evangelical in is you know
the man who got rove returned by putting the Supreme Court Justices on the bench right
so he's kind of able to he's the only can that sort of able
to straddle both sides of that position
however we're seeing a lot of a initiatives like referendums even in very deep Red States
go towards the pro abortion era I Ohio Kansas great examples r
is that enough to actually is that enough to animate the anti
Trump voters to come out
and hold their nose and pull the lever provide you know ultimately this general election is
going to be decided by independent voters
particularly in the swing states of you know Georgia Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin Arizona
I am one who believes that there is opportunity for Republicans in the abortion issue
now mind you border security the economy the conflicts around the world these are
much greater concern for voters
but the left will use abortion and try to pound us over the head with it
and here's the response the reality is 75 percent of Americans
believe in some restrictions on abortion 75 percent
Democrats don't want to have that conversation Republicans and Carrie lake
she's done a terrific job messaging there which is to flip it back on
the left flip it back in the media to say this
before I talk about abortion you go ask my Democrat opponent
what restrictions is our he or she willing to agree to
they can't and they won't answer that question that's where the debate ends
it's no longer a time when Republicans should be the ones to have to
put down the place marker
a fifteen week ban or like in Florida a six week ban
I'm sorry those days are over Republicans have to fight like hell
to being painted into a box on the abortion issue and the way to
do it is flip it back around
show me a Democrat and show me one o's willing to have a conversation about restrictions
are you open to any restrictions they can't answer it and so therefore the conclusion is
so you are supportive of abortion at 39 weeks because you're not open to
discussing any restrictions that's what you're supporting
75 percent of Americans disagree with that's where we take this debate
theoretically but it seems like at the national level like ok you mentioned Carrie lake
in terms of a Republican outside of the maga movement righty
here she is you know Easter Rising star but when you look at like leadership
and the general debates happening there it that's not the way they're frame
and then you also of course have like to says like Indiana
where they're pushing like a
you know a bill it's actually outlaw abortion the Sen thing in Kansas that
was the bill the referendums thowas on the books they are to
overtly make it the law that abortions were not protected by the state constitution
and so it's it seems like what you're saying could work
but that doesn't seem to be a real push towards
pushed pushing the conversation there from the GOP so I mean
I mean what at do you realistically think will happen with this issue well
I think Republicans have to take command they have to address it
and then bring it back to the issues that voters really care about let me look
at it this way the economy has been the great concern of voters for three years
now until the fall of 20 23
it flipped border security is now a greater concern for voters so the reality is voters
are not looking to talk about abortion
the left wants to do that the Democrats do because they don't want to have a
conversation about the border or about the economy or about the wars that are
taking place or crime in our cities we can't let them set the agenda
and here's the other thing row the Wade the overturning of that was successful
for one basic reason the federal government never had that power
it's a power that's delegated to the states are now
people are speaking through their state representatives through the referendums on what they want
for their abortion policy that's the way it should be each state should be able to
decide for itself the people and those communities should be able to decide for themselves
but you know so I believe Republicans have to get a backbone
they have to be able to pushback on that issue flip it back because 75 percent
of people believe there should be some restrictions
that's where we should begin and end the debate and then return the conversation
to the issues that people care about like border security crime drugs I mean
America's falling a part of the teams
you know they left unders to talk about abortion because that's where they think
they have a winning edge the reality is that's not where voters are
families are worried there's a general sense of insecurity in America
because of crime because of drug accidental drug overdoses hundreds of thousands of them every year
that's where people are being hit right now working families and the Republican Party
is now the Republican Party of working families it's no longer the Democrats
we need to speak to the issues of greater concern to them
so you mention border security and
you know of course there was that border Slash Ukraine Slash Israel funding bill
yeah not so long ago it ii
you know though there's a long to Easton the senate yeah exactly back and forth
died in the house but here's my question to you
after that the border part was squashed
the narrative that the messaging that came out very strongly
by both the White House as well as Democrat congressional leadership echoed by the mainstream media
was that Republicans could have done something with the border they didn't hear go
thee seven point five million illegals who've come in under the Biden administration a
bill that failed days ago
on the face of it you might say well that's ridiculous but on the other hand
from the kind of conversations I'm gleaning both online and also in that congressional
race like gort the George Tarter district
the fact that it was flipped by such a fat margin a lot of it was
attributed to the fact that Republicans kind of
dropped the ball and that and that bill I guess the question that I
have is the message so you say they need to get their messaging straight
but it seems like the messaging from the GOP is like
the worst possible you can you can ever get like they're not getting their message across
Lee a this is why we're not moving forward with a border security bill
that is not being shaped by the GOP it's being shaped by everybody else and painting
them as you know as a certain caricature bad guy now willing to take a stand
like without flipping that like can anything be done and how can that be changed right
and the reason why they're successful at that messaging war is because Mitch McConnell
concocted this debacle and basically played into their hands and then
gave them a weapon to beat us with which is absurd look
March 12th or March 19th Donald Trump becomes the Republican standard bearer
Donald Trump is going to set the messaging for this election it's not Mitch McConnell
it's not the senate leadership who totally botched that issue
it's going to be Donald Trump and Donald Trump is very clear on Ukraine I just
want to see people stop dying
I mean is have you seen an elected official in America
say that one person in Europe say I just want to see them stop
dying no you know why
because the establishment yachting loves war they love war
it's a big moneymaker it's the military industrial complex that's making money through the
blood of American men and women
so I appreciate the point but congressional leaders have never been particularly good at messaging
a presidential standard bearer is has that has the bully pulpit he has the ability to
set the messaging right which is
Europe should pay its fair share do you realize the European nations
have paid only ten percent of the cost to the Ukraine war and yet
they have ninety percent of the risk
and so I appreciate your point the Democrats definitely caught the Senate
Republicans flat-footed because they said aha
here we finally had a solution to the border problem through this bill and you backed
off of it no I'm sorry
the American people are smarter than that working people in America they know where
this border security problem came from
they know that the border was secure under Donald Trump and that on day
one Joe Biden lifted this border look this is an intentional invasion
it's black and white so the notion is laughable and it's shameless to suggest that Republicans
hold any responsibility whatsoever yet you have to believe the American people are stupid
to think that messages going to stick I don't believe it
I really don't I don't see anything in polling to suggest that they're going
to fall for that message
Joe Biden owns this the Democrats own it because they basically opened the border
and sat on their hands until we got to election year
and then they put together a package to say we need more laws
we need a policy to fight this border no you don't Donald Trump didn't
Joe Biden has the power so I just I'm not concerned about it because I know
come March 12th or March 19th
Donald Trump is our leader he's our standard bearer we're all going to take the lead
from him on messaging around Ukraine
ok well Mark thank you so much then Roman effisis